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Medications certainly have their place, but what if there was a way to support your body naturally by working with your genetics?
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We are a pill for an ill society.
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We take 18 pills per person per American per day.
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It was so hard to find somebody who took my insurance.
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And for me to get well, it took thousands of dollars.
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And I thought, though, what do regular people do?
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This is not right.
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Despite my best efforts, I wasn't actually reversing disease and helping people to heal in the way that I thought I would.
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We want to empower yourselves to take care of this root cause.
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We don't just want to cover it up.
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If you're ready to break free from outdated, one-size-fits-all health care, you're in the right place.
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Welcome to Raise the Script with Nutrigenomics, brought to you by InHer Glow® by LYFE Balance.
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Here's a literature from we're all unique, right down to our DNA.
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So it's no wonder we respond differently to the same medications, foods, and environments.
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How do you discover what your body needs?
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Which medications, foods, supplements, or exercises are right for you?
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How can you manage chronic conditions without piling on more prescriptions?
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That's what we're here to explore.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Tamar Lawful, Doctor of Pharmacy, Nutrigenomics Specialist, and your partner in reimagining how we personalize care for better outcomes.
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Whether you're a patient or a practitioner, let's raise the script and bring healthcare to higher levels together.
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Because the future of health is personal.
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Welcome back to Raise a Script with Nutrigenomics, where we take the science of health and make it personal so you can finally understand what your body's been trying to tell you.
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I want you to picture this.
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Yet somehow you've stopped feeling like yourself.
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You're exhausted, wired at night, living off caffeine by day, and you can't remember the last time you felt energized.
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That was life for Peggy Moore, a critical care nurse who spent more than 20 years helping others heal until she realized she was running on empty.
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Her journey from burnout to balance led her to discover functional medicine and create her tire to thriving blueprint, a roadmap for women who are done surviving and ready to start thriving.
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In today's episode, Peggy shares what happens when stress, hormones, and gut health collide and how small, sustainable changes can reset your energy, your sleep, and your confidence without another crash diet or quick fix.
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If you've been given your all to everyone else and wondering when it's your turn, this episode is for you.
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Listen in.
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Peggy, thank you for joining us on Raise the Script with Nutrigenomics all the way from Japan.
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It's a pleasure to have you with us today.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm very excited to be here today.
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Now, before we get started, can you tell the listeners about you and how did you get to doing what you're doing today?
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Yeah, my name is Peggy Morin.
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I have been in healthcare for about 25 years.
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I spent the first 20 years working in the ICU and critical care.
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The last about eight to 10 years of that, um, taking care of soldiers from Afghanistan and Iraq.
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So very high stressful, very intense, providing health to others in the community and to our soldiers.
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And it was a great experience, and I learned so much, but I spent a lot of my time feeling very stressed and just pushing forward and ignoring all the stress and all the signs of being overwhelmed.
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Um, because as a healthcare professional, if you know any healthcare professionals, we just keep pushing through.
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I had three kids during all that time.
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And so having them grow up and being the mom, you know, to make sure there's food on the table and the laundry was done and taking care of all their needs and then going to work and take care of the needs of my patients took a toll on me.
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And after about 20 years, I realized I'm tired and I need to make a change.
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And so I started looking, of course, on the internet and researching things.
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And there's so many, I wouldn't say answers out there, but there's so many opinions out there of things that we can do.
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And so I would be like, I was in shiny object syndrome.
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So I would see, oh, this is gonna help me sleep better.
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Let me take this.
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This is gonna give me energy, let me take this.
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And I was spending all this money on all these different products and it wasn't really helping because it wasn't specific for me.
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And then I finally found a functional medicine provider, and they were able to listen to my story, to all my symptoms.
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That's one of the things I feel it's very difficult in conventional medicine, which I was a part of for many years, is you only have so much time to listen to the patient.
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Maybe a 15 minutes is all your primary care provider has.
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And then they have to move on to the next patient.
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So they really don't have time to hear the whole story.
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They need to listen very carefully so that they can get the symptoms, so they can make a diagnosis, so they can give you the fix, which is usually a medication of some sort.
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And I spent many years doing that.
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I couldn't sleep, so I went to a doctor, he gave me medication.
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I was having trouble losing weight, so I went to a doctor, he gave me medication.
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I was having some anxiety, some stress, waking up in the middle of the night with kind of little panic attacks, gave me medicine and sent me along my way.
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No one put it all together until I found that functional medicine provider.
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And they were able to really look at all the pictures, take everything, do some root cause analysis.
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So look at some labs.
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There's so many labs that we can look at that go a little deeper than conventional medicine, may have the time for, or insurance may not pay for it.
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And you have to realize conventional medicine has to have their symptoms and their diagnosis and their treatment, and it has to fall within specific categories to be able to be reimbursed by insurance.
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And if it's not, if you're anywhere outside of that box, it's very frustrating, I'm sure, for the doctor, and it's frustrating for you.
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We often get told, oh, you're just aging, or it's your hormones, and there's nothing I can do about it.
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And that's very frustrating for patients.
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And that's kind of what I went through.
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And so when I finally was able to figure out the root cause by looking at some labs of what was really going on with my body, I was able to do some lifestyle modifications to change my nutrition a bit, to change the way I ate, not only just what I ate, but how I manage those meals.
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I think there's so many famous diets out there that work for some people, but they don't necessarily work for all people.
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And so by doing a few lifestyle changes, learning how to manage my stress, which is huge for all of us nowadays.
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We all have stress and busy lives.
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I was able to completely change my life.
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I'm able to sleep now.
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I lost about 30 pounds.
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I don't wake up achy and stiff anymore.
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I got rid of that inflammation.
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And so it changed my life so much.
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And as a healthcare professional myself, I'm like, how can I do this and help other people?
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And that's really what we got me into functional medicine and helping other, mainly women, change their lives so that they can be thriving in their midlife to later life.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for sharing your story with us, Peggy.
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And I can only imagine how frustrating it was getting when you just were given another pill, another medication, another medication, another medication.
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Uh, so frustrating until you found functional medicine and finally got some answers without adding on to uh the pill burden and the potential side effects with those medications.
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Now, I know you shared that at one point you were told your labs look normal, you're fine, right?
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So, how did that moment reshape your understanding of what health really means?
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I'm so glad you asked about that because my story was getting long and I was like, I gotta cut this down.
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I have two, but I'll give you one very specific instance.
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So I had, I believe it was due to stress, but I don't know.
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But during when I was in nursing school, I had three children, and nursing school was pretty tough.
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I developed a knot in my throat.
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And I was like, oh my gosh, I have this knot in my throat.
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And I called the doctor and I'm like, I have a knot in my throat.
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And I'm like, I think it's my thyroid.
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And he was like, I think you're fine, but you can come in and we'll check it.
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And it turns out I had a five centimeter thyroid tumor, the size of a golf ball.
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Like he was bringing people in to see the ultrasound because it was so big.
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And of course, it had to be taken out, which it was.
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And luckily for me, it was benign.
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They put me on some medication, sent me along my way.
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A few years later, I had wanted to go off the medication, so I did.
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But I keep an eye on my thyroid, and I was talking to my doctors just in the past like five or six years, and I'm like, I'm having all these symptoms, I'm tired, I don't feel good, I've got this waking, my neck just feels thick.
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I need my thyroid checked.
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And of course, they checked my TSH and my T4, which are two labs that doctors check for your thyroid, and they were both fine.
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And I'm like, but something's not right.
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And so when I went to my functional medicine provider, she's like, well, we can dig a little deeper.
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We can do some thyroid antibodies, we'll look at a free T3.
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So just some additional labs.
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My thyroid antibodies were 2,000.
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They're supposed to be 70.
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So they were almost 2,000 times what they're supposed to be.
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So therefore, I had a diagnosis of Hashimoto's that was missed by conventional medicine.
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And when I started to dig a little deeper, I'm like, why?
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Because I was in traditional medicine for 20 years.
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We do try our best, we work really hard.
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And their philosophy was if the TSH and the T4 are fine, you're fine.
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If they're a little out, we'll give you synthroid, but that's their treatment of choice.
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They don't dig into anymore.
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And when we worked with my functional medicine provider and we found out those labs, we were able to figure out what's going on with my thyroid and how can I fix it naturally without just going to synthroid, which actually would have just masked the symptoms.
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So a huge thing I learned, and this talk isn't really about thyroid, but I want to just tell you is gluten is actually a protein that mimics the thyroid.
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So if you're having a traditional American diet and it's full of gluten and you've got thyroid issues, your poor body is going, oh my gosh, what's going on?
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I have all these molecules that look like a thyroid.
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I shouldn't have so many.
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I'm going to attack it.
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And they just attack it and attack it and attack it.
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And that's why I was having those symptoms, is because my thyroid was being attacked and it was inflamed and I had all this inflammation.
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And once I learned that, and I wouldn't have learned that if I hadn't done that additional labs and then additional root cause analysis.
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But once I learned that, I was able to change the way I ate and I stopped eating gluten.
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And my thyroid antibodies are now around 100.
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So not perfect, but way lower than they were.
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And I'm sleeping all night.
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Like I said, I have lost some weight.
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I just feel better.
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I'm not as fatigued.
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My neck doesn't feel as thick.
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I probably feel like I've lost like two inches just on my neck, but just very much a confirmation to me and an eye-opener that we can dig a little deeper.
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We can figure out what's going on with your body and fix your body from within without extra supplements.
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I was just able to do a few lifestyle changes and huge difference in my life.
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Yeah, I love that you you mentioned that without the extra supplements as well, because the supplements maybe need it for some, but if we can do it without the supplements, but with nutrition and lifestyle, then why not?
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Right.
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We just have to dig deeper, get to that root.
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Like you mentioned, that root cause analysis, so we that we can figure out what it is that really needs to be targeted and what we really need to do.
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Because the medications are like you said, they're just masking the symptoms that, but not addressing the cause.
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So if we can get to the cause and knock that out, why not?
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Why not?
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Now you have um you're tired to thriving blueprint, Peggy.
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Can you tell us about that?
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What are the main pillars if you were able to share with us or phases that help women go from that constant fatigue to having that steady energy instead?
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Absolutely.
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So I worked with many clients and talked with many people, and I kept hearing the same things over and over again.
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It's that I'm so tired.
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I'm tired.
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I have to live off of caffeine and sugar to get up in the morning.
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And then, of course, noon hits and I need another caffeine and sugar boost.
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And then four o'clock hits, and I'm at my desk and I've got to get more work done.
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So what do I do?
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I reach for caffeine and sugar, and it's this roller coaster all day long.
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And then it's time to go to bed, and I'm so wired, I can't sleep, but I'm exhausted and I'm tired.
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And then I get to sleep, and then I wake up a few hours into my sleep, and my brain is going crazy, and I can't get back to sleep.
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And then I get back to sleep for a little while and I might wake up again.
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I think I have to go to the bathroom, but my mind gets to racing, and then it's time to get up and work and do it all over again.
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And I'm so tired that I'm reaching for that sugar and that caffeine and it starts all over again.
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So, not only being tired, but just the fatigue.
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Women talk to me about body aches.
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Like I just ache all over and I can't, I'm living off of ibuprofen to take care of the aches and pains.
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And I'm like, oh, there's so many better ways.
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Tired to Thriving is a blueprint that I created that really takes those signs and symptoms, and we personalize it to that individual.
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There's three big pillars that I work on primarily, and that's gut health, recognizing the importance of our gut.
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And if our gut is not working properly, which your gut is your tummy, it's where you digest your food, you digest your nutrients.
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But if it's not working properly, um, because of inflammation, because of dysbiosis, which means your bacteria is off.
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If it's not working, you can't get the nutrients that your body needs.
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And if your body can't get what it needs, of course it's going to be tired because it's working all this extra time.
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So we really work on gut health, we work on hormones, looking at women's hormones in particular.
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Where are you at?
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You know, pre-menopause can start in your 30s, and women feel those symptoms and they can't really put a name on it.
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And a lot of times they get overlooked and they get just told, those are your hormones, that's the way it is.
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Well, that's not true.
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There are some things that we can do, some actually very bio-idental ways that we can support those hormones, which hormones you need.
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I never would just throw hormones at someone without looking at what exactly they need.
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So we look at those hormones, and along with those hormones, we look at cortisol and DHEA, which are your metabolism and cortisol, we know is your fight or flight.
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So if you're living in this constant, I need my caffeine and my sugar, I need my caffeine and my sugar, I need my caffeine and sugar, your cortisol is probably a little off.
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And by steadying that out, you will feel so much better.
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Along with those hormones, is insulin and glucose.
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As I said, we often reach for caffeine and sugar together to give us that boost that we need to get through a few hours to get our work done.
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And by doing that three and four times a day, it's could be one of the main things that's waking you up in the middle of the night is that your blood sugar is so used to being on that roller coaster.
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So balancing out that blood sugar and those insulin spikes, I tell you, for me personally, was one of the biggest changes.
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I didn't realize why I was waking up at night so many times until I wore a glucose monitor.
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And I was like, oh my gosh.
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I'm like, my blood glucose is low at night.
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That's good, right?
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She's like, Well, why is it low at night?
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Because it's high and then it's low and then it's high and then it's low and then it's high and then it's low.
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And when you live on this trajectory, that's why it gets low at night, and your body reacts with cortisol to bump it back up.
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And so when I started to steady out my blood sugar, I didn't have to reach for caffeine in the middle of the day.
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I didn't have to reach for caffeine first thing in the morning.
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So, gut health would be the first tier, hormones is the second.
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And then we look at lifestyle management.
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What are the things that we can do to manage those big pillars and big parts of our life to help us thrive and feel better and not have to rely on false gratification, I guess, to get us through the day?
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Right.
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Thank you for explaining those pillars.
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Now, many of our listeners are healthcare professionals, Peggy themselves.
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How do you bridge your nursing background with functional and genomic principles in your client work?
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Because you do some genomics, correct?
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, that's such a great question.
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I have been a healthcare provider, like I said, for 25 years.
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And I loved critical care because you got to put so many pieces of the puzzle together.
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That was my favorite thing.
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Patients in critical care are pretty sick, and you're managing a lot of body systems.
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Um, you're managing respiratory, cardiovascular, neuro, their oxygen levels, so many things.
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And that's why I loved it, um, kind of my personality.
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And I love being able to dig deeper.
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Um, as a critical care nurse, we were able to do not all the cart labs, but we could do all the labs we needed to figure out what was going on with our patient and be able to fix them sometimes minute by minute.
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And that's what I've been able to take into my functional medicine practice is really that curiosity and that critical thinking, those critical thinking skills to really look at the big picture of what's going on with my patient, to do that root cause analysis, to look at those labs, what's going on with my patient's blood sugar and insulin, what's going on with them metabolically, what's going on with their hormones?
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What can I look at that's gonna help me with their symptoms and help me put the big picture together?
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What is specific for them?
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That's another thing I love, is it's very personalized.
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And so it gives me an opportunity to use my skills to kind of look at what's going on, but it also gives me the fun skill of working closely with my clients.
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So I love working with my clients, figuring things out, teaching them about the what and the why.
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I'm the kind of person that if you don't tell me the why, I'm not gonna you can tell me that eating good is good for me all you want.
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But if you don't get down to the nitty-gritty and tell me why, if you didn't tell me why it was important for me to not eat gluten, I would have been like, oh, that's just a fad.
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I don't want to do that.
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But now that I know why, I'm like, oh my gosh, okay, you know, and so I'm very much on uh try to educate my patients as much as possible and really support them along the way.
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My uh blueprint is usually three to four months.
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I usually end up working with my clients for about a year and then I keep check on them about every six months because we all need that little check-in.
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And so, but that first three months gives us a time to really dig in deep and find out what's going on and how we can make the body better and healthier before we're on this trajectory of a point where we're having to take lots of meds and not able to live the lifestyle that we want.
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So to go from tired and fatigued to thriving and energized and feeling like you're in your 30s again.
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Yeah, I like that you mentioned working with the women and them really understanding what's going on, the why.
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Because that makes a difference.
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That makes a difference in whether they're gonna stick with really trying to make these lifestyle changes or these new new habits and new way of eating and and thinking about um food.
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Uh, because otherwise, like you said, they just think it's a fad.
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But why?
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And that's why I really like the genomic testing, is because that's telling them why they responded certain ways when to foods, why they might have certain cravings, why they they're feeling so tired, why their hormones may be off of balance.
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So they get to the why.
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And I've in my experience as well, I realized that that why portion is so important and it makes them more compliant to their health and wellness plan.